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Mr Jinx

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But we have been electing populists. What was George Osborne's "Strivers v shirkers" narrative if not a populist one?
This made me laugh hard. George Osborne was no more a populist than Starmer is.
 

Mr Jinx

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Talking of Starmer's actual, perceived or hoped for disingenuousness I think this sums up the situation pretty accurately


Only the most hysterical would pronounce this a Brexit betrayal - the fact is that there was no manifesto outlining what Brexit would look like; as Cummings explained it would have been far too difficult to produce one since so many people wanted so many different things. We will remain outside the EU which is the only thing that The People voted for....
Please remind us how Labour's last attempt at playing both sides of the Brexit fence played out art?
 

Hermann

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How do you think the state system will deal with an estimated extra 50-100k intake were private fees to go up by 20%.
They wouldn't have to, because it won't happen. As previously discussed the estimated figure comes from a pro-private school lobby group and is probably rubbish.
 

Mr Jinx

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They wouldn't have to, because it won't happen. As previously discussed the estimated figure comes from a pro-private school lobby group and is probably rubbish.
Lolz, I'd expect nothing less from the rubbishing denialist. So are you telling me private schools are exempt from normal rules of economics? If no one would be affected by an increase in fees, why don't they just double them? Heck no, just triple them.

You don't half spout some nonsense.

A 12% decline in numbers attending (ie 50k) were fees to go up 20% is very realistic. That'd push the top end fees up to nearly £50k PA! Maybe if the economy was having a boom time and top end taxes were relaxed then maybe 12% is a bit of a push.
 

Hermann

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Lolz, I'd expect nothing less from the rubbishing denialist. So are you telling me private schools are exempt from normal rules of economics? If no one would be affected by an increase in fees, why don't they just double them? Heck no, just triple them.

You don't half spout some nonsense.

A 12% decline in numbers attending (ie 50k) were fees to go up 20% is very realistic. That'd push the top end fees up to nearly £50k PA! Maybe if the economy was having a boom time and top end taxes were relaxed then maybe 12% is a bit of a push.
Cool. You continue to doff your cap and subsidise my child's education then.
 

arthur

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Please remind us how Labour's last attempt at playing both sides of the Brexit fence played out art?
He's only playing one side of the fence, the Brexit side. No talk of rejoining the EU, and as for the CU and SM The People gave no opinion on the matter. Starmer's on the same side of the fence as you are, so just suck it up. I have...
 

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"Private school fees are VAT-exempt. That tax advantage allows the wealthiest in this country, indeed the very wealthiest in the globe, to buy a prestige service that secures their children a permanent positional edge in society at an effective 20 per cent discount …

The prime minister, quite rightly, wants to end burning injustices in our society. We could scarcely find a better way of doing that than ending tax advantages for the global super-rich and instead extending them to the vulnerable and voiceless. What better way to make next month’s budget a budget for social justice?"

Michael Gove 2017
 
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