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[Alistair20000]

I think you've been spending too much time in Tavistock

A lovely Stannary town it is true but sadly no recent visits. I go to Plymouth rather more these days.

 

[Grecian2K]

A lovely Stannary town it is true but sadly no recent visits. I go to Plymouth rather more these days.

Now, why does that not surprise me?

 

[arthur]

It is not Brexit per se that we are talking about here mind.

No, it's the Brexit constituencies. The coalition that Johnson and Cummings assembled versus the "metropolitan liberal elitist establishment". Mind you, how 48% of those who voted can be called an elite is something I'll never understand.

The problem with this strategy for Sunak is that his "Brexit constituency" is smaller than it was and opposition to it is larger. His policy is polling well among 2019's first time voters (aka red wall), but the Tory majorities there are small, and there are many other reasons for these voters not to vote Tory again.

At the same time his policy is polling badly in the blue wall, so the net result of this policy shift will still be negative I think.

 

[Alistair20000]

No, it's the Brexit constituencies. The coalition that Johnson and Cummings assembled versus the "metropolitan liberal elitist establishment". Mind you, how 48% of those who voted can be called an elite is something I'll never understand.

The problem with this strategy for Sunak is that his "Brexit constituency" is smaller than it was and opposition to it is larger. His policy is polling well among 2019's first time voters (aka red wall), but the Tory majorities there are small, and there are many other reasons for these voters not to vote Tory again.

At the same time his policy is polling badly in the blue wall, so the net result of this policy shift will still be negative I think.

Time will tell. I sense no great enthusiasm for Sir Keith and politically he is not that savvy. Not a Blair or a Wilson.

 

[Alistair20000]

Now, why does that not surprise me?

I do some work there from time to time.

I earned over £1,000 there on Tuesday. It almost bankrupted the City.

Love taking money from Plymouth me .

 

[Grecian2K]

I do some work there from time to time.

Brave man! You must stand out like a sore thumb!

 

[tavyred]

You do realise that our biggest reduction in carbon emissions came during the 1990s when we dashed for gas? Progress since 2010 has been much less impressive. I suppose the fact that you use 1990 as the date to measure our performance against is entirely coincidental.

Some examples on how we have "led the world" since 2010 would be much appreciated

I’m surprised that you’re unaware of why 1990 is widely used as the baseline year for judging the efforts of countries in the battle against greenhouse gasses Art.
P1ss poor eco-warrior skills on display from you here Art!

 

[arthur]

I’m surprised that you’re unaware of why 1990 is widely used as the baseline year for judging the efforts of countries in the battle against greenhouse gasses Art.
P1ss poor eco-warrior skills on display from you here Art!

It's you who describe me as an eco warrior, not me. All part of your relentless straw man strategy

 

[arthur]

Time will tell. I sense no great enthusiasm for Sir Keith and politically he is not that savvy. Not a Blair or a Wilson.

His political savviness is indeed in doubt, but his leadership skills are demonstrably very good. How many commentators thought that the basket case that was the Labour Party in 2019 would be poised for victory in less than two parliaments? The best that most predicted for Starmer was that he would be Kinnock, doing the hard remedial work and preparing the ground for a subsequent leader's victory. Even you must give him credit for what he has achieved Shirley?

 

[BigBanker]

Summits. Not very effective are they ?

Blah blah, waffle waffle, make promises without really ever intending to deliver and meet again for another jolly next year.

Not very effective when politicians do a 'Rishi', no.