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City Goalscorers Nerd Out

Rosencrantz

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Seeing as there is always a debate going on about City strikers/goalscorers and I was bored this afternoon, I thought I would get a spreadsheet going to see if anything interesting pops out. As data is kind of all over the place in different sources, I used the ECFC Bible for stats up to 1990 and Soccerbase for most of the stats after.**

**Steve Moran was from an archived database online as Wiki and Grecian Archive only seemed to have league stats.
**Steve Neville is up to and including 1989/90 but not 1990/91, his last season with us, which is a bit of a pain to find without turfing my old programmes out of the attic. Grecian Archive stats seemed a bit conflicting.

So fifty goals or more for the mighty Grecians are as follows..

PlayerGoalsAppearances
Tony Kellow151377
Alan Banks109286
Darran Rowbotham101274
Fred Binney98189
Steve Flack94414
Graham Rees92370
Steve Neville86305
Harold Houghton83223
Angus MacKay83270
Keith Bowker76241
Douglas Regan70224
Charlie McClelland65197
James Bell63119
George Purcell63249
Ray Pratt62180
Fred Whitlow6286
Alan Beer56126
Ray Carter53109
Archie Smith52125
Ted Calland51108
Richard Ebdon51144
Jayden Stockley5198
Harold Kirk50154

Of course what is a really telling stat would be strike rates. Although some may disagree, I would say that an 1 in 3 strike rate is the sign of a good quality striker. So with the qualifier of more than 45 appearences, here they are...

PlayerGoalsAppearancesAppearances per Goal
Roderick Williams36461.28
Fred Whitlow62861.39
Fred Dent35561.60
Henry Poulter33541.64
Harold Blackmore47771.64
William Goodwin40751.88
Henry Bowl42791.88
James Bell631191.89
Jayden Stockley51981.92
John Wilkinson27521.93
Fred Binney981891.93
Percy Varco46901.96
Ray Carter531092.06
Ted Calland511082.12
Steve Moran34742.18
Alan Beer561262.25
Jamie Cureton42962.29
Sean Devine421002.38
Archie Smith521252.40
John Nicholls23572.48
Tony Kellow1513772.50
Alan Banks1092862.62
Wilfred Lievesley381002.63
Ronnie Jepson25672.68
Harold Houghton832232.69
Darran Rowbotham1012742.71
Richard Ebdon511442.82
Frank Wrightson26742.85
Ray Pratt621802.90
Ryan Bowman33962.91
Richard Smart381122.95
Joe Gadston32952.97

Some unfamiliar names in that list but a sign and maybe some surprises. Twelve players coming in with a strike rate better than a goal every other game but not many in the last 50 years.

Now the since Tony Kellow debate and the modern striking era (or within my memory 😉 ). I tried to pull together all the significant goal scorers/strikers (so not necessarily all strikers) back to the eighties. I might have forgotten some or they might be debatable under significant goal scorers but I tried to get those who scored more than 15 (although I might have been generous to a couple).

PlayerGoalsAppearancesAppearances per Goal
Jayden Stockley51981.92
Steve Moran34742.18
Jamie Cureton42962.29
Sean Devine421002.38
Tony Kellow1513772.50
Ronnie Jepson25672.68
Darran Rowbotham1012742.71
Ray Pratt621802.90
Ryan Bowman33962.91
Reuben Reid22673.05
Daniel Nardiello25773.08
Tom Nichols341133.32
Ollie Watkins28993.54
Steve Neville863053.55
Lee Phillips26933.58
Adam Stansfield391584.05
Brendon O'Connell21874.14
David Wheeler411714.17
Dean Edwards17734.29
Steve Flack944144.40
Richard Logan482164.50
Alan Gow14634.50
Jamie Mackie20964.80
Christian Roberts18894.94
Ryan Harley502655.30
John O'Flynn251335.32
Peter Rogers422265.38
Dave Pullar271495.52

Of course there are lies, damn lies and statistics. Some of those figures will be more accurate with a goals per minute played stat due to sub appearences. Also you will have players coming to the end of their careers like Kellow skewing the stats from his peak years and those starting out and finding their feet before hitting form and consistency such as Watkins and Nichols. You also have players who played in different positions other than striker during their time here like Neville, Wheeler and O'Connell (right back!).

Anyway, plenty to chew there I think. Have fun.
 

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I was going to say something but 4.8 games per goal says enough I think.......
 

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Steve Moran was before my time but that is some record he's got there... Hot sh*t.
 

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Interesting stuff Rosencrantz.

Who is the John Wilkinson who averaged a goal every 1.93 games? Unless my memory is even worse than I thought, I'm assuming this isn't the John Wilkinson who played for City in the early 2000s and, as I recall, went on to become a Singapore international.
 

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Interesting stuff Rosencrantz.

Who is the John Wilkinson who averaged a goal every 1.93 games? Unless my memory is even worse than I thought, I'm assuming this isn't the John Wilkinson who played for City in the early 2000s and, as I recall, went on to become a Singapore international.
Definitely not that John Wilkinson. I was unaware of him also but according to my source (The ECFC Bible), he played for us between 1959 and 1961. He signed from Poole Town and left to go to Wellington Town. Grecian Archive have him as Jack Wilkinson and signing from Port Vale before moving back to Cheshire though so there seems to be some discrepancy although the stats are the same. Maybe the older boys on this forum can fill us young'uns in on John/Jack :)
 

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Always thought the John Wilkinson from the early 2000s had something about him a bit like Joel Randall in style...born before his time really, had he been around today I’m sure he had the talent and would have been given the time to develop into a pretty good player.
 

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I was going to say something but 4.8 games per goal says enough I think.......
Yeah, if you ignore the fact that he scored 12 of his 20 goals in his final 27 games for City, many players needs time to find their mojo, Mackie had a problem with staying onside IIRC. In 2007 aged 22 he matured as a footballer and moved on to have an impressive career in the upper etchelons.

Mackie always had that potential, some people could see it, some people thought he should be a winger!;)
 

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Yeah, if you ignore the fact that he scored 12 of his 20 goals in his final 27 games for City, many players needs time to find their mojo, Mackie had a problem with staying onside IIRC. In 2007 aged 22 he matured as a footballer and moved on to have an impressive career in the upper etchelons.

Mackie always had that potential, some people could see it, some people thought he should be a winger!;)
1 every 3.32 games is all I have to say if you want to squabble about not rating players.
And moving on to Argiggle as moving on to the higher echelons of the game. Oh dear Sturtz, what has become of you in lockdown.😝
 

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Yeah, if you ignore the fact that he scored 12 of his 20 goals in his final 27 games for City, many players needs time to find their mojo, Mackie had a problem with staying onside IIRC. In 2007 aged 22 he matured as a footballer and moved on to have an impressive career in the upper etchelons.

Mackie always had that potential, some people could see it, some people thought he should be a winger!;)
1 every 3.32 games is all I have to say if you want to squabble about not rating players.
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1 every 3.32 games is all I have to say if you want to squabble about not rating players.
And moving on to Argiggle as moving on to the higher echelons of the game. Oh dear Sturtz, what has become of you in lockdown.😝
254 Championship games, 60 Premiership games and 76 games in L! seems to back up your insight into the failure that was Jamie Mackie. :unsure:
 
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