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tavyred

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……and so the whole sorry tale of an unreformed NHS continues for perhaps another decade. 🤷‍♂️
 

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……and so the whole sorry tale of an unreformed NHS continues for perhaps another decade. 🤷‍♂️
As I have said many times only a Labour can reform the NHS. Any attempts by the Tories would be howled down.

We have been here before of course. Cardinal Blair tasked Frank Field to think the unthinkable on NHS reform. He duly did that and was ridiculed and rubbished for his trouble. I cannot see an unreconstructed Socialist such as Sir Keith Starmer taking the necessary steps.
 

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It’s what you don’t say DB.
You’re a tad ‘one eyed’ in your analysis it has to be said.
Do you not think that the UK hasn’t really recovered from the GFC of 2008?
Wages are the same as they were in 2008
 

Alistair20000

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Wages are the same as they were in 2008
Would you like to repost this so that it is accurate and not misleading.
 

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When was it ever a Government’s policy to take us out of the EU? 🤷‍♂️
Brexit has proved problematic to the job of government, yes ?
 

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Would you like to repost this so that it is accurate and not misleading.
According to statista the average wage in 2008 was £25,165 today it's £34,963. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1002964/average-full-time-annual-earnings-in-the-uk/

So not taking inflation into account, Art is wrong.

According to the Bank of England inflation calculator a salary of £25,165 in 2008 would be worth £39,278 - https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/inflation-calculator

So again, Art appears incorrect.

Don't worry folks, as ever, I'm here to help.
 

tavyred

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Brexit has proved problematic to the job of government, yes ?
Yes, only because the whole political class made it that way.
As soon as we got a Government with a healthy majority it became rather easier you’ll recall.
That majority of course was created by a frustrated electorate desperate to end a rotten parliament unwilling to carry out its Brexit instruction from the people.
 

Mid Devon Grecian

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Did I hear right the other day that the ‘uni-party’ consensus is that the thresholds are not going to be looked at until 2030?
Ouch!
Reform UK are advocating a raising of the bottom threshold to £20K I understand.
#justsaying 😎
For a bit of amusement I just read the Reform policy document.

Loads of absolute populist BS, rolling out all the old tropes, unfunded tax cuts, magical growth, punish the energy providers at the same time as making them public/pension fund owned

Can’t get to see a doc or get your op on the NHS, no worries you’ll get a voucher to pop down to your nearest 5* private hospital and they’ll do it for you.

Immigration? They’ll magically balance those leaving with those allowed in. Of course those allowed in will all be VERY CLEVER people.

Get schools to focus on teaching kids to read and write 😂😂

Government/Civil Service waste money, not if you vote Reform they won’t!!

Magic 🪄

Funny how Tice and co said the EU was the route of all our problems, now some 8 years after the referendum all our problems are now home grown.

Utter clowns who no doubt will pick up some votes from gullible former Tories.
 

elginCity

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......As soon as we got a Government with a healthy majority it became rather easier you’ll recall.....
Don't agree, full EU import border checks have been delayed 5 times, to the UK's disadvantage. Brexit proper STILL hasn't happened despite your 'healthy majority'. You'd have thought Brexit would mitigate the damage of Covid and Ukraine, but no, by any measure it's compounded it. That's why I believe you were disingenous in not including Brexit along with your list of events outside their control in excusing '14 years of Tory misrule'.
 

tavyred

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Don't agree, full EU import border checks have been delayed 5 times, to the UK's disadvantage. Brexit proper STILL hasn't happened despite your 'healthy majority'. You'd have thought Brexit would mitigate the damage of Covid and Ukraine, but no, by any measure it's compounded it. That's why I believe you were disingenous in not including Brexit along with your list of events outside their control in excusing '14 years of Tory misrule'.
By what measure did Brexit compound the Ukraine ‘damage’?
The struggling German industrial sector might be interested in your response. 🤷‍♂️
 
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