UK and European Politics 2024 Thread

[DB9]

I think there should be a limit of 3 weeks from calling an election to holding one, 6 weeks of drivel, promises, lies etc is just dire (If only there was a thread called something like "The Feckin Dire Thread)

 

[Spoonz Red E]

Keir Starmer - specialist subject, the bleeding obvious

Rishi Sunak clearly does not believe in his Rwanda plan. I think that’s been clear from this morning, because he’s not going to get any flights off.

I think that tells its own story. I don’t think he’s ever believed that plan is going to work, and so he has called an election early enough to have it not tested before the election.

Most of the country, bar a few diehards in Tavistock, have probably already worked this out

One day in and Sunak is already taking softball Rwanda questions from planted members in the audience ...

Rishi Sunak takes ‘staged’ question from Tory councillor posing as worker

The prime minister was asked about his Rwanda deportation plan by Tory councillor Ross Hills.

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

[Spoonz Red E]

One day in and Sunak is already taking softball Rwanda questions from planted members in the audience ...

Rishi Sunak takes ‘staged’ question from Tory councillor posing as worker

The prime minister was asked about his Rwanda deportation plan by Tory councillor Ross Hills.

uk.news.yahoo.com

Two out of three ain't bad ... from the Guardian reporting of the same event.

"At the Derbyshire event, Sunak appeared to pick a questioner at random, first alighting on Hall-Evans, who asked what set the prime minister apart in terms of improving people’s finances.

The third questioner, Hills, a Leicestershire councillor and part-time dentist, thanked the prime minister for attending when he was a “pretty busy man” and asked whether the Rwanda plan would “stop the boats”. Neither of the men mentioned in their question that they were Conservative councillors.

The questions allowed Sunak to talk about his priority issues of the economy and immigration, telling the audience that he had improved inflation and had a plan to deport people who arrived in the UK illegally to Rwanda."

 

[Oldsmobile-88]

I think there should be a limit of 3 weeks from calling an election to holding one, 6 weeks of drivel, promises, lies etc is just dire (If only there was a thread called something like "The Feckin Dire Thread)

Agree...6 weeks of the same bland statements & sound bites from Sunak & Starmer during interviews will send us all off to the Cartoon Network.

 

[Mr Jinx]

I think there should be a limit of 3 weeks from calling an election to holding one, 6 weeks of drivel, promises, lies etc is just dire (If only there was a thread called something like "The Feckin Dire Thread)

It's all just guff, lies and froth. Just have it for one day.

That said, there's always some classic moments along the way. Who can forget the Prescot upper cut, Bozza hiding in a fridge, Gordy and Bigotgate.....the list goes on.

 

[DB9]

It's all just guff, lies and froth. Just have it for one day.

That said, there's always some classic moments along the way. Who can forget the Prescot upper cut, Bozza hiding in a fridge, Gordy and Bigotgate.....the list goes on.

Its wall to wall guff, Those nuggets are too rare.

 

[Oldsmobile-88]

It's all just guff, lies and froth. Just have it for one day.

That said, there's always some classic moments along the way. Who can forget the Prescot upper cut, Bozza hiding in a fridge, Gordy and Bigotgate.....the list goes on.

I remember listening to the Gordon Brown incident being broadcast on Jeremy Vines show only about a hour after it occurred. Brown was being interviewed by Vine when the latter played it & asked Brown for comment. It was one of those wow awkward moments.

 

[lamrobhero]

Its almost as if politicians are afraid of engaging direct with the electorate.

I understand in the US there is something called a "Town Hall" though not sure the extent to which they are staged. Certainly there are examples of "School Boards" being harranged by members of the public who seem to have a right to be heard (on youtube usually about "book banning").

In Okehampton there is usually an election meeting before the public where all the candidates attend answer questions. I am not sure maybe questions have to be submitted in advance. I would be interested in going but I only hear about it after the event. Not sure if public demand exceeds number of seats.

In the "good old days" of 1979 I attended a pre election meeting held by John Hannam at Pinhoe Junior School where iirc there was an opportunity for the public to question him on anything.

And who can forget Tony Benn in Princesshay in 1978.

 

[Oldsmobile-88]

Its almost as if politicians are afraid of engaging direct with the electorate.

I understand in the US there is something called a "Town Hall" though not sure the extent to which they are staged. Certainly there are examples of "School Boards" being harranged by members of the public who seem to have a right to be heard (on youtube usually about "book banning").

In Okehampton there is usually an election meeting before the public where all the candidates attend answer questions. I am not sure maybe questions have to be submitted in advance. I would be interested in going but I only hear about it after the event. Not sure if public demand exceeds number of seats.

In the "good old days" of 1979 I attended a pre election meeting held by John Hannam at Pinhoe Junior School where iirc there was an opportunity for the public to question him on anything.

And who can forget Tony Benn in Princesshay in 1978.

Or John Major standing on his soap box in Bedford Square, Exeter, pre the 1992 GE.

 

[Radio Free Skaro]

Two out of three ain't bad ... from the Guardian reporting of the same event.

"At the Derbyshire event, Sunak appeared to pick a questioner at random, first alighting on Hall-Evans, who asked what set the prime minister apart in terms of improving people’s finances.

The third questioner, Hills, a Leicestershire councillor and part-time dentist, thanked the prime minister for attending when he was a “pretty busy man” and asked whether the Rwanda plan would “stop the boats”. Neither of the men mentioned in their question that they were Conservative councillors.

The questions allowed Sunak to talk about his priority issues of the economy and immigration, telling the audience that he had improved inflation and had a plan to deport people who arrived in the UK illegally to Rwanda."

Tories Campaign is shockingly bad thus far, it's almost as although they are deliberately trying to lose.