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Sorry for quoting your whole post here, Bittners a Legend; but it's a really interesting read. At PFC we can't pay on the turnstile now - haven't been able to for several years. For a while (a couple of years, and owners, back) it was more expensive to buy 'on the day' than in advance - but I don't think it is any more.Hi AP - certainly don't think you're having a pop and you raise some good questions.
I think my viewpoint is that I don't have an issue with advanced sales and agree that those willing to part with their cash early and commit deserve some sort of reward as season ticket holders get (at least in theory). However, if you are going to have advanced sales I think you need the cut off point to be at least 3 days in advance for the club to gain any sort of advantage from it as opposed to 3 hours before kick off which just seems to be a middle ground that suits nobody. I would guess that the clubs main motivation behind this scheme is to bank the cash for games when there are postponements but if a game was in doubt because of the weather I doubt many are going to buy a ticket in advance knowing they can wait until 3 hours before.
Secondly as Tony Moxey has said the disparity between advance and pay on the gate prices are huge and to me seem an attempt to bully fans into buying in advance which is not just wrong but counter productive. For example the difference for a senior on the Big Bank is £5. Crazy. Also I don't think that under 18s should have to suffer the consequences of these hikes - unless you have parents taking you to go the game I imagine many under 18 will have no way of buying a ticket. In fact I have a feeling that the terms and conditions for buying tickets on the City website states that you have to be at least 16 or 18. I don't think the discount for advance sales should really be more than £1 or £2 max.
Thirdly I am afraid I do think prices are too expensive. I agree we didn't have a hike in the last two seasons but that is partly because we suffered a relegation. In the last 6 or 7 years the prices have gone up significantly. For example I'm now 25 but when I first started paying the adult ticket price I think it was £12 on the Big Bank and £19 or £20 for the Flybe. Paying on the gate now will cost £19 and £29 which is a pretty hefty increase. I don't advocate making the prices really cheap and hoping we get 6 or 7,000 but we definitely do NOT have the balance right at the moment in my opinion.
What I would say is that pricing is a weird thing. It's £20 to get in to Fratton Park currently (cheaper with a season ticket, obviously) but it doesn't seem that expensive. It's not because of the quality of the product (trust me!) but because it was £30+ a few years back - I was priced out of a season ticket then (£600+ at the height of our 'premier league' experience).
I don't think clubs help themselves when there are lots of layers of pricing - outside of the need to price adults/oaps/kids (and in some cases youngsters/students) separately. The advance/on the day thing is also quite interesting, but I'd imagine a £1 difference would be proportionate - £5 (which I think was mentioned) seems massively excessive? It's the same price to watch from any stand here - regardless of view, etc.
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